Important Announcement Re Spamming

[MaTriX]

Please be aware that we have set filters on this server which will pick up spamming immediately, whether it be in the main rooms, private rooms, in private, via /notice , via /ms ..the filters are set as they would have been had we been on ICQ still and that is to pick up ANY spamming of any other chat servers, no matter who they are. Other Networks (if they have any sense) will also set up filters the same way.

The point of this topic is to ask that you ensure you do not, whether accidentely or not, paste anywhere on here because it will pick up an immediate g-line. Over the last few days we have seen more than ever so please, do enjoy your chat here, but help yourself to avoid the filters!

Thank You for taking the time to read this

MaTriX

[BOSS]

thanks bro that's perfect

[SandeepA]

Hello Mark,
As you have mentioned it is via notice or memo serv that the filters are set. So a link to server posted in one to one private Windows also means that user gets glined?


I wish to share a link to some folks, not as a spam but just a friendly share, if so I ask you for a suggestion.


Kind regards
Sandeep

[MaTriX]

Hello Mark,
As you have mentioned it is via notice or memo serv that the filters are set. So a link to server posted in one to one private Windows also means that user gets glined?


I wish to share a link to some folks, not as a spam but just a friendly share, if so I ask you for a suggestion.


Kind regards
Sandeep

Hiya sandeep - yes effects all privates and NO, you wont get glined, as long as the link you are posting is not another chat site or network

[GODIE]

You mean like all of you did on ICQ? Or do you mean a different type of spamming? Are you that worried about losing users that you are filtering the links shared?
Get a grip.

[libra]

We didnt spam on icq we had no reason to since the admin allowed us to use global messages. We were still IRCops there. Get your facts right  please, the  people spamming were flooders/abusers and not affiliated to any ircop on this  server.

As for filtering the links why should we allow  people to spam other networks do you think they would allow us to spam on theres? I doubt it..


I rest my case

[GODIE]

Well sending out a global notice spamming your server is spamming your server. Doesn't matter if you think that is what spamming is or not. You also sort of stopped being ircops the day you decided to...quit being ircops, everyone knew the admin didn't care.

And yes, I do think other networks would allow you to send your friends messages with links to other servers. Have you tried it to know different?

You're just afraid of losing users.

[SandeepA]

GODIE
There are few things I would like to say.
1. Most of us are from icq, when these folks who we call ops left the server we all wished they come back and take care of the spam/abuse/trolls. And on contrary your on a server created by same folks and now u happen to question them for being so strict with security.
2. They have put many man hours into setting up, you must be knowing this. So end of the day they are professionals and committed folks and they sure don't want people to leave. But ur statement meant as if they were knocking off people's  freedom. Comparison of professionalism/commitment to fear/afraid isn't correct in my sense. Many servers are coming up and there is competition it isn't just at librairc u find the this concern, I chat at some other serves too where this kind of filters exist, for I have witness people getting banned for a post. I felt that was just professional way to deal with unwanted stuff and provide a secure environment to chat. And it is same in here also.


They aren't afraid, they are concerned. Let's support and encourage them.

[libra]

Godie the only reason people were annoyed we used a global message was because it let everyone know our server, and for others to let their server be know they had to use flood/spamming methods. We  done it a few times and not on a daily basis where it was stopping people chatting, I believe there  is a difference. And if we stopped being IRCops there  is not is not your concern, the point is we were  given permission to do it from icq.

Had we not been able to set global messages we still would not have spammed, and we were telling people who were chatting on our server also not to spam. We spent years banning spam so we were not going to encourage users to do it elsewhere. Anyone you see spamming our server its off their own back and we know nothing about it.

And no other servers do not allow it.  Some of the IRCops on that other server were spamming as well, sending memos to people etc, now you can think that should be allowed all you like but no we wont allow it .We have given plenty warnings about people spamming other NetWorks on the forums and by global messages, to try and stop people being glined needlessely.

[tracy]

[size=1em]

here is something to consider/think about


1. icq is a multi million dollar company. when ircops posted the network link on the infoserv, you do not think the icq admin will noticed? the infoserv was up for about 2 weeks? if it was wrong or not allowed? you do not think the icq admin would had taking it down? what the ircops did was allowed. alot of ircops, chanops, ophelpers gave alot of their time for icq so the chatters had a great place to stay in. if chatters think that icq chatrooms closing down was an over night decision? chatters needed to rethink on it because i am 100% sure that icq admin planned the close down a long time ago. icq admin own the op more than just a infoserv notice post. i know a few ops spend more than 10 years helping out chatrooms unconditionally. 2 weeks of infoserv was just cheap change. [/size]

[size=1em]2. now on the spamming. we have a good reputation. we are not afraid of loosing chatters. think of filtering the links as a safety measures. if one chatters got hurt because of going into one of those links. no one will want that. no one know what is on the other side of those links. one of our goals is to keep the chatters safe. because one of those links and something happen. then people will say, why didn't you filter those links. i been saying for a long time. no matter what ircops/op do, there will always someone not liking it. [/size]

[size=1em]3. all the ops care. if ops do not care, we would not have spend so many hours for icq trying to keep the place clean and good for chatters. ops do not get anything from it. ops do it uncondtionally.  alot of people do not know is that being an op is a mental beat down. after a period of time, it gets really hard. i think one of the factor that so many op left was that there was no salary and chatters were mentally tearing them down. not alot of people can stand that sort of mental tear down. [/size]

4. are you friggin kidding me? you think other network will let chatters post librairc to their network? seriously? 0.0!!!!!





P.S -- im typing this at 2 am. i did not know what happened. the buttom half went missing and i retyped. if you see 2 postings, the meaning basically the same.

[King]

This is useful especially when users tend to post codes or errors to another user, they should be aware of flood protection. It'd would be good if they receive a warning first since most users wouldn't know about this.

[libra]

There  is no way to warn people if its been placed on the spamfilter, this is why we have warned  people on the forums, and in chat, that links to a  few other networks have been filtered  due to daily spam. I think the biggest majority of our chatters do now know what sites are banned.

[King]

With scripting, every thing is possible  
Was this flood protection triggered by atheme services?

[libra]

no it isnt a services addon, its a module, and  no there isnt a way to warn people first, the whole idea of  it is to get rid of spam on the spot

[King]

no it isnt a services addon and  no there isnt a way to warn people first, the whole idea of  it is to get rid of spam on the spot

Okay, I've seen some unusual "!ban" and "!bot" on optional channels. If those are the protections, I presume that those are the only channels under this protection right? I'm tempting to test it though lol..

[libra]

the spamfilter is nothing to do with iban or ibot and iban and ibot set channel bans the filter is a server ban

[King]

Okay, since we've started discussing here, which is a public announcement. I've created a more suitable thread where discussions like these can be done, feel free to discuss further if you want


Here's the location: http://librairc.net/forums/index.php/topic,437.0.html